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Some observations from using the Claw EX now for a week or so...


- Setting manual TDP with a framecap doesnt seem to trigger auto TDP behaviour like it does on the 8 AI. It can happen for some low TDP games but for the AAAs I've tried it sticks to the TDP you set it. Maybe this is a architecture difference between LNL and PNL? Who knows...


- The fan curves are way too aggressive and anything over 4500 rpm is too loud for me. The only user mode that allows for custom fan curves is Manual mode. So using AI mode you're stuck with the fan curve that MSI has coded for that mode, which is way too aggressive.


- CPU boost off, unlike LNL, does very little to bring down TDP.


- Everything feels more responsive on the G3 Extreme compared to my 8 AI. Probably obvious but the CPU is a lot stronger. Games load faster, less stutters overall


- As usual, the MSI software is crap and at this point it's negligence on their part. How can a handheld be so expensive yet they cant even be bothered to work on better software. At this point, with the G3 Extreme not really great with Auto TDP behaviour, per game profiles are essential. They also need to build into Quick Settings more of the settings in the Intel Graphics software, like MFG override, framelimiter, endurance gaming, etc. 


- Endurance gaming mode is mostly 15w. It sometimes will hit 18w but it's very random. MSI needs to make Endurance mode whatever wattage it wants to be to hit the 3 Intel Endurance Gaming presets of 30, 40 and 60 FPS. Right now, the peformance preset of 60 FPS is not usuable on AAA because Endurance gaming mode is stuck to 15w




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MSI Claw EX๋ฅผ ์•ฝ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ๊ฐ„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ด๋ณด๋ฉฐ ๋А๋‚€ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ด€์ฐฐ ๊ธฐ๋ก์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค...

  • ์ˆ˜๋™ TDP ๋ฐ ํ”„๋ ˆ์ž„ ์ œํ•œ ๋™์ž‘

    • ์ˆ˜๋™์œผ๋กœ TDP๋ฅผ ์„ค์ •ํ•˜๊ณ  ํ”„๋ ˆ์ž„ ์ œํ•œ(framecap)์„ ๊ฑธ์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ, Claw 8 AI์—์„œ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ '์˜คํ†  TDP(Auto TDP)' ํ˜•ํƒœ๋กœ ๋™์ž‘ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €์‚ฌ์–‘ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ฐ„ํ˜น ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธํ•ด ๋ณธ AAA ๊ฒŒ์ž„๋“ค์—์„œ๋Š” ์„ค์ •ํ•œ TDP ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ๊ณ ์ •๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ฃจ๋‚˜ ๋ ˆ์ดํฌ(LNL, Lunar Lake)์™€ ํŒฌ์„œ ๋ ˆ์ดํฌ(PNL, Panther Lake)์˜ ์•„ํ‚คํ…์ฒ˜ ์ฐจ์ด ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ผ๊นŒ์š”? ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ฒ ๋„ค์š”...

  • ์ง€๋‚˜์น˜๊ฒŒ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ธ ํŒฌ ์†๋„(Fan Curves)

    • ํŒฌ ๊ณก์„ ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์„ธํŒ…๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ, 4500 RPM์„ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๋ฉด ์†Œ์Œ์ด ํ™•์‹คํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์šฉ์ž๊ฐ€ ํŒฌ ๊ณก์„ ์„ ์ˆ˜๋™์œผ๋กœ ์กฐ์ ˆํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ”„๋กœํ•„์€ '์ˆ˜๋™(Manual) ๋ชจ๋“œ'๊ฐ€ ์œ ์ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰, AI ๋ชจ๋“œ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ๋•Œ๋Š” MSI๊ฐ€ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์œผ๋กœ ์ฝ”๋”ฉํ•ด ๋‘” ํŒฌ ๊ณก์„ ์— ๋ฌถ์—ฌ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ณผํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์„ค์ •๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

  • CPU ๋ถ€์ŠคํŠธ ๊บผ์ง(CPU boost off)์˜ ํšจ๊ณผ ๋ฏธ๋น„

    • ๋ฃจ๋‚˜ ๋ ˆ์ดํฌ(LNL) ๋•Œ์™€๋Š” ๋‹ฌ๋ฆฌ, CPU ๋ถ€์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๊บผ๋„ TDP๋ฅผ ๋‚ฎ์ถ”๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋ณ„๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

  • ๋” ๋›ฐ์–ด๋‚œ ๋ฐ˜์‘์„ฑ (Claw 8 AI ๋Œ€๋น„)

    • ํ™•์‹คํžˆ Claw 8 AI์™€ ๋น„๊ตํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ, ์šธํŠธ๋ผ 3 ๋‚˜์ธ(G3 Extreme) ๋ชจ๋ธ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ฉด์—์„œ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋น ๋ฆฟ๋น ๋ฆฟํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋А๊ปด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์—ฐํ•œ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ CPU ์„ฑ๋Šฅ์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•˜๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”. ๊ฒŒ์ž„ ๋กœ๋”ฉ๋„ ๋” ๋น ๋ฅด๊ณ , ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๋Š๊น€(์Šคํ„ฐํ„ฐ๋ง)๋„ ์ค„์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

  • ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์—‰๋ง์ธ MSI ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด

    • ์—ฌ๋А ๋•Œ์™€ ๋‹ค๋ฆ„์—†์ด MSI ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด๋Š” ์—‰๋ง์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด์ฏค ๋˜๋ฉด ์ด๊ฑด MSI ์ธก์˜ ํƒœ๋งŒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ช…์ƒ‰์ด ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋น„์‹ผ uMPC ๊ธฐ๊ธฐ์ธ๋ฐ, ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋œ ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ•  ์ƒ๊ฐ์กฐ์ฐจ ์•ˆ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ๋ง์ด ์•ˆ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ G3 Extreme ๋ชจ๋ธ์˜ ์˜คํ†  TDP ๋™์ž‘์ด ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ ๋งค๋„๋Ÿฝ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด๋ผ '๊ฒŒ์ž„๋ณ„ ํ”„๋กœํ•„ ์„ค์ •' ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ์ด ํ•„์ˆ˜์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ, ์ธํ…” ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด์— ์žˆ๋Š” MFG ์˜ค๋ฒ„๋ผ์ด๋“œ, ํ”„๋ ˆ์ž„ ์ œํ•œ, ์—”๋“€๋Ÿฐ์Šค ๊ฒŒ์ด๋ฐ(Endurance Gaming) ๊ฐ™์€ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ์„ค์ •๋“ค์„ ํ€ต ์„ธํŒ…(Quick Settings) ๋ฉ”๋‰ด์— ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ํฌํ•จํ•ด ์ค˜์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

  • ์—”๋“€๋Ÿฐ์Šค ๊ฒŒ์ด๋ฐ(Endurance Gaming) ๋ชจ๋“œ์˜ ํ•œ๊ณ„

    • ์—”๋“€๋Ÿฐ์Šค ๊ฒŒ์ด๋ฐ ๋ชจ๋“œ๋Š” ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„ 15W ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ์ œํ•œ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€๋” ๋ฌด์ž‘์œ„๋กœ 18W๊นŒ์ง€ ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ€๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ผ๊ด€์„ฑ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. MSI๋Š” ์ธํ…” ์—”๋“€๋Ÿฐ์Šค ๊ฒŒ์ด๋ฐ์ด ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” 3๊ฐ€์ง€ ํ”„๋ฆฌ์…‹(30, 40, 60 FPS)์„ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก, ์ด ์—”๋“€๋Ÿฐ์Šค ๋ชจ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ „๋ ฅ(W)์„ ์ž์œ ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์“ธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์ˆ˜์ •ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ƒํƒœ๋กœ๋Š” ์—”๋“€๋Ÿฐ์Šค ๊ฒŒ์ด๋ฐ ๋ชจ๋“œ๊ฐ€ 15W ๊ทผ์ฒ˜์— ๋ฌถ์—ฌ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—, AAA ๊ฒŒ์ž„์—์„œ '60 FPS ์„ฑ๋Šฅ ํ”„๋ฆฌ์…‹'์€ ์•„์˜ˆ ์จ๋จน์ง€๋„ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ค€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.







๐Ÿ”ฅ ์‹ค์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋„คํ‹ฐ์ฆŒ ๋ฒ ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ฐ˜์‘

  • ์—„๋ถ•์ด1ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹
  • ๊ฟˆ๊พธํŒจ์น˜๋‚˜์˜ค๊นƒ์ง€
  • ๊ตฌํด๋กœ๋‹จ[์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์—‰๋ง์ธ] ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ… ใ… ใ… ใ… ใ…œใ… 
  • ๋ฌด๋ช…ํ™˜๋ถˆํ•ด? - dc App
  • umuใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹

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